ATX power supplies and RF stages

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ATX power supplies and RF stages

Post by KA5BBC » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:30 am

Has anyone had success with using an ATX power supply not only for the RPi but in providing power to the Minitouner, the Pluto, the LimeSDR, and the likes of the REF France 433/1.2/2.4 amplifiers etc?
I'm fortunate in that my project case came with a 550 watt modular power supply as I can easily modify cables to supply bus bars, buck converters, and more. I would like to utilize this as it would be a neat and secure solution for the case.. I just don't want to cook my equipment.
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Re: ATX power supplies and RF stages

Post by G3GJA » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:25 pm

Just be aware that only the 5v rail is properly regulated in an ATX power supply.

The 12v rail's voltage depends on the current loading on the 5v rail, so if you are only running an amp or so to feed the 5v kit you may find that the 12v rail is low voltage.

Another thing to be aware of is the ripple. I've used Pi filters of 2 x 22µF low ESR caps (tantalum) and 220µH 3A inductors in my Raspberry Pi controlled units powered by SMPS. Alternatively, regulate down to 6.5v with the SMPS and then use a linear low drop-out regulator to 5v.

Chinese ATX power supplies are notorious for causing noise on the AC supply because they save a few cents bypassing the chokes in the AC primary side. PFC is often missing too, but that's not much of a problem at lower power levels.

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Re: ATX power supplies and RF stages

Post by g0mjw » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:33 pm

I wonder if it is really worth it. ATX supplies are not ideal for most radio applications. You could use it, it's possible, but I wouldn't do it that way. Better take in 12V and use a switching regulator with filtering to get the 5V for the PI and Minitiouner.

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Re: ATX power supplies and RF stages

Post by KA5BBC » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:54 pm

Thanks Clive.. I had not realized that the 5V rail is controlling the 12v output beyond the standby rail.. I do plan on some form of filtering and regulation so hopefully will resolve the ripple issue.
G3GJA wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:25 pm
Just be aware that only the 5v rail is properly regulated in an ATX power supply.

The 12v rail's voltage depends on the current loading on the 5v rail, so if you are only running an amp or so to feed the 5v kit you may find that the 12v rail is low voltage.

Another thing to be aware of is the ripple. I've used Pi filters of 2 x 22µF low ESR caps (tantalum) and 220µH 3A inductors in my Raspberry Pi controlled units powered by SMPS. Alternatively, regulate down to 6.5v with the SMPS and then use a linear low drop-out regulator to 5v.

Chinese ATX power supplies are notorious for causing noise on the AC supply because they save a few cents bypassing the chokes in the AC primary side. PFC is often missing too, but that's not much of a problem at lower power levels.

Clive G3GJA
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Re: ATX power supplies and RF stages

Post by KA5BBC » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:58 pm

I did find a fantastic breakout board on Amazon for $10 which has traces thick enough to handle all the current an ATX supply can give..
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Re: ATX power supplies and RF stages

Post by FRANCOIS F1CHF » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:29 am

hello
did you keep the item number on amazone site ?
thanks
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Re: ATX power supplies and RF stages

Post by KA5BBC » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:30 am

FRANCOIS F1CHF wrote:
Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:29 am
hello
did you keep the item number on amazone site ?
thanks
This is Amazon US but it should be easy to find..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBU2C64
Andy, KA5BBC/MM0BQV

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