C-band LNB.

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G4EWJ
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C-band LNB.

Post by G4EWJ » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:39 am

I understand that it's possible to use a C-band LNB with a Sky dish to receive 3.4GHz, but I can't find any information. Does anyone have any pointers, photos etc please.

Brian

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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by g8vpg » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:58 am

Brian,
The C band LNB that I have (Titanium C1W-PLL) is physically much larger than a LNB for the usual 10-12GHz satellite bands with a large scalar feedhorn nearly 160mm in diameter. The waveguide input to the LNB is about 67mm diameter, whereas most of the Sky LNB's have a 40mm diameter fitting. I think you would need to fabricate a special mount for it. Obviously, the C band LNB's are bigger because the wavelength is longer.
73 Shaun.

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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by g8gtz » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:38 pm

I use a Titanium LNB on a sky mini dish. I placed the feed point of the C Band LNB at the same point as the Sky LNB on the basis that the focal point of a dish is the same regardless of frequency. I've done no scientific tests but it seems to work OK receiving GB3HV over a 15 Km obstructed path and seems fairly sharp on direction.
G8GTZ@home with Sky mini dish on 3.4 GHz
G8GTZ@home with Sky mini dish on 3.4 GHz
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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by G4EWJ » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:37 pm

Thanks both.

Would you expect better performance if the LNB arm was 're-worked' out of the way, so that the flat or conical scalar feedhorn could be used?

Brian

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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by M0DTS » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:11 pm

On my 23cm EME setup i found the choke ring only make a dB or two if difference when measuring sun noise.
The lnb choke ring is designed for a prime focus dish by the look of things.
Using the lnb with the oval sky dish is not optimum either so just optimise the position and you will not be far from optimum with the lnb alone.

Rob

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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by tonyaxn » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:31 am

Here's a pic of the horn I made to fit one of these LNB's.. although I can get a pic from GB3NV the local DATV repeater 16 miles away just by pointing the LNB out of an upstairs window without any antenna.

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Tony.
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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by G4EWJ » Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:54 am

Thanks both.

Brian

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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by M0DTS » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:33 am

Nice job with the Horn Tony!

Is that riveted or welded at the join?

Rob

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Re: C-band LNB.

Post by tonyaxn » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:04 pm

Good question Rob

As is often the case the view from behind is not as attractive as the view from the front !
Slightly hidden is the jubilee clip which clamps the serrated narrow end of the horn to the circular waveguide on the LNB.
Important to slide the horn up and down the waveguide for max gain using a signal meter or spectrum analyser before tightening the jubilee clip.

Tony.
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Re: C-band LNB. Tube / Horn Extention

Post by G8DKC » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:39 pm

Will have to get Aes down soon to upgrade 70cms beam, I think a dish or horn at roof height is out of the question with the other antennas.
As a thought...with the C1W-PLL, there appears to be a progression in diameter from the feed tube block to the front.
The "extra" tube is approx. 9cm long and internal diameter at the front end of 6.3cm a label inside says 65dB Gain.
Is there a way to extend the progression in diameter to get a little more gain?

No great loss if no, could put up as is for local signals.

Pic attached of similar feed.

Peter
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