24GHz dx..

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M0DTS
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24GHz dx..

Post by M0DTS » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:58 pm

Since the fail for a valid qso during the contest (Sync but no lock! @56km) i've been receiving Terry, G1LPS's 24GHz FM ATV test signal at various strengths from home through trees at Terry's end!
The distance is 28km but i'm sure we can better that ;-)

For information TX is very simple, 10mW gunn module using modified Bob Platts GUNNMOD driver (5v diode bias on 24G GUNN units) into a 25dB horn antenna about 25cm long.
You can get similar modules from K-Band PIR units.

Rx is a modified 26GHz Alcatel unit from ebay using an Elcom synthesiser as the LO (22.8GHz for 1.2GHz IF). It's performance with little modification is very good but i have built a DB6NT 24GHz LNA from kit to improve things.
Using a 60cm dish with ~2.5deg beam width and a dual band 10/24G feed so i can line up on 10GHz signal first.
Some info here on the Rx:http://www.m0dts.co.uk/index.php?tag=24GHz&item=97
Today result after a bit of tweaking is near enough P5 signal over 28km path.

If anyone has any idea whether there's any UK records/previous activity for 24GHz ATV I'd like to know ;-)

52km test is next test then maybe 115km in the near future.
I hope to monitor signal vs weather soon to see how it's effected compared to 3cm.

Rob
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G1LPS 24GHz ATV 26/6/2014
G1LPS 24GHz ATV 26/6/2014
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Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by M0DTS » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:00 pm

Last night i went to one of my regular Portable sites with the 24GHz Rx.

Liaised with Terry on 2m talk back and he turned the 10mW Tx/Horn towards me and i received his signal up to P4 level, distance 53Km!!
We were quite amazed how well 24GHz works considering the loss, it was raining all along the path when we were running the test so losses must have been quite high.

Next is 115km test sometime in the near future!!

Rob
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G1LPS received at IO94MJ on 24GHz - 53km path
G1LPS received at IO94MJ on 24GHz - 53km path
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Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by G1LWX » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:00 pm

Well done Rob
It's a band that I am interested in but at the moment
I possess no gear. I will watch progress with interest.

73's
Mike G1LWX

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Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by G1LPS Terry » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:20 pm

Here's a picture of my basic 24GHz TX setup
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Here is my 24GHz 10mw TX with 25db Horn
Here is my 24GHz 10mw TX with 25db Horn
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Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by M0ATV » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:37 am

Fascinating, when you consider the narrow wavelength and losses being inserted along the TX/RX path it is amazing any of the actual original TX manages to make it through at all, gives food for thought at the potential of the band with half decent equipment, similar to Mike here, no gear for 24Ghz yet, barely managing to gather gear for 10Ghz myself, so will also monitor this thread for updates, well done to Rob & terry for having a dabble on 24Ghz.

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Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by G4IMO » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:42 am

Well done Rob on your 24Ghz ATV experiments. I never got up to those dizzy heights before pulling the plug on ATV.

I have a box full of 23/24Ghz bits. ex commercial. PA's , multipliers, Vco's downconverters, wg etc. I did list it all in the Forsale section last year but no takers. I will re list if anyone's interested!

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Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by G1LPS Terry » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:39 pm

Sounds like interesting parts.
please list what you have
Thanks

G4IMO

Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by G4IMO » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:00 pm

Hi Terry,

Ok will list again in the next few days. Better someone makes use of it than going in the Skip !

Nick

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Re: 24GHz dx..

Post by G4IMO » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:00 am

Items now listed in the Forsale Section

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