DATV-Express Project
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Re: DATV-Express Project
Charles
I upgraded the express software to v1.25p6 for my pluto on my windows 10 computer with settings (1249mhz dvb-s2 at 2200000 SR, FEC 2/3,8PSK using h264).
The MER went from 19db to 36db the Timing Lock went for 60% to 98%, RF went up by 10db, Constellation is very sharp and better too it seems so far stable. Good work on the beta upgrade. Now on my windows 7 computer v1.25p6 wouldn't start and gave a hex error. I downgraded back to v1.25p4 and it worked again. Keep up the good work and thanks for a great program.
Chuck
I upgraded the express software to v1.25p6 for my pluto on my windows 10 computer with settings (1249mhz dvb-s2 at 2200000 SR, FEC 2/3,8PSK using h264).
The MER went from 19db to 36db the Timing Lock went for 60% to 98%, RF went up by 10db, Constellation is very sharp and better too it seems so far stable. Good work on the beta upgrade. Now on my windows 7 computer v1.25p6 wouldn't start and gave a hex error. I downgraded back to v1.25p4 and it worked again. Keep up the good work and thanks for a great program.
Chuck
Re: DATV-Express Project
You might need to install a Microsoft re-distributable but the error message should have told you that (I re-compiled everything with a more up to date version of Visual Studio). So it is probably something else. I think I have had it running on Windows 7. I will try and make a new version that has
Lime support available this weekend. I was supposed to do it last week but I got diverted onto something else.
- Charles
Lime support available this weekend. I was supposed to do it last week but I got diverted onto something else.
- Charles
Re: DATV-Express Project
Charles, I noticed that version 1.25p6 brought me an error about a missing audio device. When I selected the right device in Capture -> Audio and pressed "Ok" it didn't save the new value to the datvexpress.cfg file: The [CAPTURE AUDIODEVICE] entry wasn't updated and after a restart the same error came up. Altering the config file by hand worked however.
Could you maybe please leave a note in the readme where you'd like bugs reported? I found your github repo, but it seems a bit out of date/and the issues there are marked as open also for a while - are you still watching this, too?
Many thanks for your great effort in this field
73 Sascha
Could you maybe please leave a note in the readme where you'd like bugs reported? I found your github repo, but it seems a bit out of date/and the issues there are marked as open also for a while - are you still watching this, too?
Many thanks for your great effort in this field
73 Sascha
Re: DATV-Express Project
Hi Sascha,
Best place would be to email the bug to support@datv-express.com
I have managed to re-create the issue. It seems that if there is no
valid hardware found it won't automatically save the information.
The work around is to use file->save then the configuration file is
correctly saved. This bug affects all the configuration information not
just the sound.
As far as Github is concerned, no I have not been updating it. I just
released the code so that other people could use parts of it in their own
projects. My development environment pre-dates my use of Github
so I have to manually update everything.
I read yesterday that Microsoft are talking about buying Github.
- Charles
Best place would be to email the bug to support@datv-express.com
I have managed to re-create the issue. It seems that if there is no
valid hardware found it won't automatically save the information.
The work around is to use file->save then the configuration file is
correctly saved. This bug affects all the configuration information not
just the sound.
As far as Github is concerned, no I have not been updating it. I just
released the code so that other people could use parts of it in their own
projects. My development environment pre-dates my use of Github
so I have to manually update everything.
I read yesterday that Microsoft are talking about buying Github.
- Charles
Re: DATV-Express Project
Sascha,
This may have fixed it, it also has better LimeSDR support (Lime must have latest firmware loaded).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7bls8zjsueg17 ... 7.zip?dl=0
- Charles
This may have fixed it, it also has better LimeSDR support (Lime must have latest firmware loaded).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7bls8zjsueg17 ... 7.zip?dl=0
- Charles
Re: DATV-Express Project
Just to say i was very pleased with the latest version for lime.
tested dvb-s in 4167 KSym/s in mpeg2 to on0snw repeater
both with webcam and usb capture dongle
worked fine.
made a 'travel' with camera and usb capture dongle.... not all frames were there... seemed more like 5fps.
A still video was ok.
Didn't had this with build in webcam.
(10% cpu on i7 laptop of 4 years old)
tested dvb-s2 in 4167Ksym in mpeg4 to local repeater
both with webcam (1280) and hd usb capture device.
Also here, i saw frames getting dropped while doing a 'travel' with the camera and the usb HD capture device.
(25% cpu)
this still has to be investigated.
maybe if a throw in vmix, it will be better....
to be tested.
73's
on4bhm
tested dvb-s in 4167 KSym/s in mpeg2 to on0snw repeater
both with webcam and usb capture dongle
worked fine.
made a 'travel' with camera and usb capture dongle.... not all frames were there... seemed more like 5fps.
A still video was ok.
Didn't had this with build in webcam.
(10% cpu on i7 laptop of 4 years old)
tested dvb-s2 in 4167Ksym in mpeg4 to local repeater
both with webcam (1280) and hd usb capture device.
Also here, i saw frames getting dropped while doing a 'travel' with the camera and the usb HD capture device.
(25% cpu)
this still has to be investigated.
maybe if a throw in vmix, it will be better....
to be tested.
73's
on4bhm
Re: DATV-Express Project
I must admit I usually pipe everything through vMix as that does a pretty good job of
cleaning up the video into something that looks 'broadcast standard'. I also do most of my
testing using a looped video (saves waving my arms about all the time).
I have noticed the MER degrades when using 16APSK/32APSK which appears down to
the magnitude of the preamble symbols compared to the payload symbols. I have a
fix for this but I don't understand why I need the fix. I have read the standard
multiple times and I can't see where the different magnitudes come from. I am going
to get my calculator out and work through the maths again this morning.
Thanks for the feedback
- Charles
cleaning up the video into something that looks 'broadcast standard'. I also do most of my
testing using a looped video (saves waving my arms about all the time).
I have noticed the MER degrades when using 16APSK/32APSK which appears down to
the magnitude of the preamble symbols compared to the payload symbols. I have a
fix for this but I don't understand why I need the fix. I have read the standard
multiple times and I can't see where the different magnitudes come from. I am going
to get my calculator out and work through the maths again this morning.
Thanks for the feedback
- Charles
Re: DATV-Express Project
Are there any cheap commercial recievers available for 16APSK or 32APSK?
I don't think i have tandbergs who can do it.... have to check...
73's
on4bhm
I don't think i have tandbergs who can do it.... have to check...
73's
on4bhm
Re: DATV-Express Project
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lnxqhx88qmivw ... 8.zip?dl=0
improved the 16apsk and 32apsk constellation, only tested with LimeMini
The DVB-S2 spec has two permitted versions of these constellations, the original software
had the simpler to implement version (outer constellation ring == 1). However it seems the
Serit tuners (and most others) use the other version (average symbol energy E == 1).
So while my original code technically was not at fault the new version should work better.
- Charles
improved the 16apsk and 32apsk constellation, only tested with LimeMini
The DVB-S2 spec has two permitted versions of these constellations, the original software
had the simpler to implement version (outer constellation ring == 1). However it seems the
Serit tuners (and most others) use the other version (average symbol energy E == 1).
So while my original code technically was not at fault the new version should work better.
- Charles
Re: DATV-Express Project
Great, I will have a go. Did you do anything to improve the TS encoding recently?