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Software for receiving 70cm

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:13 pm
by rlogue
Hi there,

I have been experimenting with the Realtek DVB-T dongle and the SDR# software, so much so that I am now actively considering getting a foundation licence. In the meantime I would like to try and receive any 70cm digital ATV activity in my area. Is there any software out there that can decode digital ATV on my Realtek dongle?

Re: Software for receiving 70cm

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:19 am
by G4GUO
Hello and Welcome to the hobby.

There are no suitable software packages because

The sample rate of the RTL Dongle is not high enough to decode DVB-S at the bandwidths we currently
use for DATV.

Terrestrial TV standards DVB-T 8/7/6 channel spacing are not currently used because of their use of
spectrum although they will fit on the 23 cms band. So you can't use your dongle as a DVB-T receiver.
Unless of course someone is experimenting with commercial standards on 23 cms :)

The DVB-T that is actually being sent tends to be 2/3/4 MHz channel spacing and uses a bespoke
receive dongle, Hides UT100D (it is not compatible with your DVB-T dongle)

If you do want to receive Amateur DATV you would need to purchase an inexpensive DVB-S dongle
or buy a cheap DVB-S set top box. Then you need to be near someone (or a repeater) that is actually
sending DATV.

I hope I have not put you off

- Charles G4GUO

Re: Software for receiving 70cm

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:26 am
by rlogue
Thank you for your kind response! I do have a USB DVB-S2 tuner so I will connect my antenna to that. The LO frequency is 9.750 GHz for my satellite LNB so presumably I would need a different LO frequency. What software would you recommend?

Best regards

Richard

Re: Software for receiving 70cm

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:45 pm
by G4GUO
Hello Richard,

That should work, the normal trick is to set the LNB frequency to 10 GHz.
Then when you tune a frequency you just need to add a 1 to the front.
For example if you wanted to tune to 1316 MHz you would set it to
11316 MHz. I am not sure where you are but you will need to find
the output frequency of your local repeater (if you have one) and
also set the symbol rate. Usually 4 MS/s is used on 23 cms.

- Charles

Re: Software for receiving 70cm

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:29 pm
by G4KLB
Most activity is on 23cms so your DVB-S dongle should be fine for that, although a preamp would also help.
If your interest is in 70cm you would also need to convert the 437MHz signal to a frequency the dongle can use, a lot of us are using the SUP2400 70cms upconverter available for £5 to BATC members in the Shop https://www.batc.org.uk/shop/hardware-and-kits but some modification is required to use it, see http://www.m0dts.co.uk/index.php?tag=DATV&item=90

Best regards
Colin G4KLB