Ryde Pico

Discussions about the Ryde "Set-top Box" Style Digital ATV Receiver. See https://wiki.batc.org.uk/Ryde_Receiver
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G8HKN
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Ryde Pico

Post by G8HKN » Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:11 pm

I use a Ryde with Pico Tuner.
Is it a Ryde Pico or a Pico Ryde ?
Second Question
Any news on an on screen Audio level indicator
for the Ryde ?
At the moment I split the HDMI feed convert to USB
and feed to another Computer.
73 Roger G8HKN

g0mjw
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Re: Ryde Pico

Post by g0mjw » Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:40 pm

G8HKN wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:11 pm
I use a Ryde with Pico Tuner.
Is it a Ryde Pico or a Pico Ryde ?
Second Question
Any news on an on screen Audio level indicator
for the Ryde ?
At the moment I split the HDMI feed convert to USB
and feed to another Computer.
73 Roger G8HKN
It is still a Ryde. We don't have Mini Rydes with minituners.

There already is an on-screen audio level, though it is only there when you adjust the volume do you mean a dynamic one like a VU meter?

Mike

G8HKN
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Re: Ryde Pico

Post by G8HKN » Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:17 pm

I only posted because the forum hadn't been used for 10 days.
Yes Mike or Tim even a simple bar graph would do.
Just to confirm Audio is present when sound is muted.

g8lce
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Re: Ryde Pico

Post by g8lce » Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:52 am

A bar graph of the audio level, that shows while the blue box is on, would be useful for checking that audio is being transmitted.
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It could also be an option to have on all the time if you were checking your own transmission with rx audio off (to stop howl round)
The bar graph might be better as part of the blue box as part of implementing it.

Martin G8LCE

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Re: Ryde Pico

Post by g0mjw » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:02 am

I expect it would, but that's likely to need quite a lot of processing power. It might be better just as a number representing the mean audio level.

I am still not quite sure why it is needed as there isn't a lot the RX can do about there being no audio on the TX. However the TS analysis in Minitioune would be a nice to have.

Maybe this is more needed at the TX end, if the OM isn't watching the chat, then they won't know. Perhaps some form of on-screen indication (assuming using the Portsdown) that there is audio being sent and at what level. Perhaps even better some TS statistics, the audio data rate, the video data rate and the amount of nulls. A very low audio data rate implies there is no audio, but a high one doesn't mean the audio is intelligible. The main reason for unintelligible audio is trying to send more video data than the bandwidth allows and the buffers overflowing. A system that works perfectly with a talking head falling over when the camera is moved around the shack for example. This happens because constant bit rate H264/265 is not in practice constant, with H265 being much less constant than H264, but giving much better images most of the time.

I guess you know if you are using the Pluto and a script it can already tell you this in the TS analysis window which is very helpful is spotting issues.

Mike

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