Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

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Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by G8DPH » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:15 am

I'm building a MinTiouner2. Got to the stage of applying power (12v current limited to 100mA). Adjusted the DC to DC module for 3.8v.
Then fitted link J2 and reapplied power. It went into current limit! I removed power and the J2 link.

Then I applied 4v to the pin of J2 marked +4v Alt. This worked fine and I could measure the correct outputs of the 3 regulators!
I fitted a new DC to DC regulator with the same effect.

Something I found strange was the adjustment range of the DC to DC converter was very limited but did cover the required 3.8v.

Have I got a duff batch of converters? Bought on eBay item number 132921707182.

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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by Nick » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:52 am

Ashley,

Out of curiosity I just measured the current on my MiniTiouner and it was 220mA. Looks like it should have gone into current limit with 100mA.

You could try increasing the current limit to 300mA

Regards,

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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by G8DPH » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:05 am

You test the power supplies without the tuner or USB module connected. Should take hardly any current.
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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by g0mjw » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:07 pm

I wonder if you had a higher voltage and the 5.6V zener protection diode activated. Until you fit the tuner there should be virtually no current as you would not have fitted the tuner at this point.

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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by G8DPH » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:18 pm

That's what I thought but I set the DC to DC converter to 3.8v output.
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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by G8DPH » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:34 pm

Found that the reason for the high current is that the DC to DC converter oscillates when a load is connected.
Will order another converter from a different source.
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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by g0mjw » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:41 pm

Oh dear, bad batch. Probably the capacitor isn't one, or similar. You can always use a traditional series regulator while waiting. I have a couple of spare DC-Dc converters somewhere.

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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by G8DPH » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:58 pm

4v series regulators are hard to find :)
Can you recommend a reliable source of the DC to DC converter?

I have a working one in front of me but it's in a working MiniTiouner V1 that I don't want to lose :)
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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by g0mjw » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:53 pm

Adjustable series regulators are easy to find that do 4V you can also do the diode trick on a 3,3V one. The DC-DC I bought is no longer listed - but there are many listings for identical boards. I can't recommend a reliable source as I have not bought one in 2 years, but others may be able to help.

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Re: Strange problem powering MiniTiouner v2.

Post by YL3AKC » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:03 am

Sorry for offtopic, but I am using %V from USB to supply MiniTiouner. It works stable, no problems observed. You need some small (little bit ugly) mod to wire +5V from FTDI board to regulators on main board.

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