Es HailSat 2 location

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g8vpg
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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by g8vpg » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:53 am

The V8 finder looks very nice, seems to be an update on the Satlink that many of use have used for some time. I wonder if they have cured the Satlinks big problem; it emits a carrier on 144.750MHz that really interferes with talkback.
By the way, I can get 30 channels or so from Arabsat with my 85cm dish.
73 Shaun G8VPG.

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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by G4EWJ » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:22 am

Thanks Noel / Shaun. Those are useful benchmarks.

There's nothing near 750 on a quick test with the V8 not receiving a signal and the handheld antenna touching the F socket. I've used it to receive 23cm repeaters at the club and not noticed anything. I'll try the handheld test when it's actually receiving tomorrow.

Brian

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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by G1BVI » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:25 pm

Hi Noel

Going to try my mini tioune to find it but I do not understand how to use the OFFSET in the minitioune s/ware.
I assume this is the LO freq on the LNB.

73

Nick

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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by G1BVI » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:00 pm

My Dad always said to me...
If at first you do not succeed try and try and try again,

I gave up with the V8 finder.
I put mini tiouner s/ware on the lap top.
Set it up and ... Eureka ......
I think I have it.
Too dark to do any more tonight.



73
Nick
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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by G1BVI » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:19 pm

This one did not upload showing levels
obtained pre tweaking maybe tommorrow....
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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by G1BVI » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:50 pm

Eureka moment short lived..
That will teach me for trying to align it in the dark.
This is NOT BADR its EutelSat 9 !!
At least it proves Minitiouner works
73

Nick

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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by g8gtz » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:04 pm

Umm - I'm not sure that is BADR4 - they look like "Asian" channels rather than Arabic and the service provider displayed in the "station" box says PTV which is Pakistan TV which is probably on Eutelsat at 9 degrees.

http://www.satellit-key.ru/satellite-tv ... m-pakistan

Also, you have a 9750 offset rather than 10,600 which you require for the higher channels - this is the reason I used a STB as an easy way to give the correct voltages and offsets:

I use Lyngsat to try and identify what transponder you are on https://www.lyngsat.com/europe.html

To receive Vertical transponders you need 12v on the LNB - for Horizontal you need 18v on the LNB.

For channels between 10,700 MHz and 11,900 you use an offset of 9750 MHz in MiniTuioner or the STB.

For channels between 11,550 and 12,750 you use an offset of 10,600 PLUS a 22KHz tone to switch the LNB to the high LO - I'm not sure if MiniTiouner does produce that on the LNB F type plug...

So for the BBC Asian channel on BADR4 on 11996 MHz Horizontal you need 18v, 22KHz and an offset of 10,600 as well as 27,500 SR and 3/4 FEC

Hope this helps

Noel - G8GTZ

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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by G4CPE » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:24 am

Hi All

I have been receiving Badr at 26E for 8 months now using a 1m offset dish and a Technomate TM-1 LNB ( claimed 0.1db N/F )

Reception is very reliable even in heavy rain, my dish is fitted with a Disec motor which is excellent once you have got it set up. it always comes back to 26E spot on every time.
The MER is between 10db and 11db on the 11996MHz transponder. The LyngSat page for Badr 26E and transponder at 11996 MHz gives the listing shown in the pic attached and agrees with the programs I receive.

As anyone come up with DIY 2GHz feeds for offset dishes that can be made easily and can be fitted to the LNB holder on the dish.

73 Arthur
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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by G4CPE » Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:29 am

Pic from BBC Arabic on 11996 MHz.

73 Arthur
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Re: Es HailSat 2 location

Post by g8gtz » Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:21 am

Another tip - I suspect this will be a hot topic for the rest of the year and will be covered at CAT18!

As Brian says this site http://www.dishpointer.com/ gives you an indication of where the satellite is from your location plus gives you azimuth and elevation bearings.

This site https://www.suncalc.org tells you where the sun is in lat and long for your QTH - you just need to find a sunny day, look up the time when the sun will be at the same bearing as BADR4 and you have a rough guide that you are pointing in the right direction.

I seem to recall there is a day (probably at the equinox) when the sun is also at the same elevation as the geostationary sats.

Noel

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